JackD201 wrote:tony wrote:way i understand it, even if i spent only 10k for the whole build and if my setup was chosen, i still get 35k, right?
If read word for word in post one, that would be my understanding as well.
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JackD201 wrote:tony wrote:way i understand it, even if i spent only 10k for the whole build and if my setup was chosen, i still get 35k, right?
If read word for word in post one, that would be my understanding as well.
Superman wrote:Sir VD, when is the target date of the "showdown"??
vintage_dog wrote:kabubs, salamat sa mga inputs. we really plan to involve as many folks like you to handle various aspects and tasks for the event. we alreay have some folks volunteer and volunteered for some tasks na, eg jack bahala on the judging procedures and mechanics, maybe you can handle the validation of the bill of materials and costs, val agreed to help in the venue, and tonyboy sharing ideas how winning entries can be featured at the hifi show, dami pa kailangan gawin. i'll try to list them so folks caan help.
tulong tulongan natin...atin toh..lahat panalo
tony wrote:vintage_dog wrote:kabubs, salamat sa mga inputs. we really plan to involve as many folks like you to handle various aspects and tasks for the event. we alreay have some folks volunteer and volunteered for some tasks na, eg jack bahala on the judging procedures and mechanics, maybe you can handle the validation of the bill of materials and costs, val agreed to help in the venue, and tonyboy sharing ideas how winning entries can be featured at the hifi show, dami pa kailangan gawin. i'll try to list them so folks caan help.
tulong tulongan natin...atin toh..lahat panalo
indeed, Vietnam has been holding theirs for years now.......perhaps this time the commercial vendors can sponsor the event for the local Diy'ers, and who knows, they may pickup an idea or two about what products to manufacture and sell....madali naman kami kausapin, mababaw lang ang kaligayahan.....
vintage_dog wrote:tulong tulongan natin...atin toh..lahat panalo
JackD201 wrote:kabubi wrote:it is a truly worthwhile project, Francis, this challenge. and it's got WS abuzz with excitement. if i may shamelessly share some blasphemous thoughts:
- i perfectly agree with each system presenting a complete list or breakdown of parts and items used, from the casing to each and every resistor, capacitor, etc --- including the brands. we can't just account for all, say, capacitors and place them under only one category called "capacitors" and jot the cumulative cost. dapat i-indicate ang values at brands. for example, may danger kasi na palabasin na binili lahat sa Raon, yun pala may V-cap
- pag gumamit din ng parts, branded na transformer halimbawa, dapat ilista ang fair market value nun part(s). di dapat ikatwiran na donated siya or it was long owned by the DiYer. not unless na ang entrant ang siyang mismong gumawa -- like in the case of Edrel, kahit factory produced pa siya. dito puedeng i-lista lang ni Edrel yung cost nung irons at wire lamang, siya kasi ang gumawa e. in the case of vintage stuff, like Altec or JBL, dapat ibigay yung fair market value kahit the DiYer/entrant has long been in possession of such. hindi advisable na sabihin niyang PhP 0.00 and cost niya.
- may i also sugest that there be a screening committee na magse-certify na yung kabuuang cost ng materyales ay di lalampas sa 35k. kumbaga sa impeachment process, isang pre-trial
- pending the identification of the judges, may i so shamelessly propose that there be a technical crew that will set up the entries. ito ay para maiwasan na ma-identify kung sino ang gumawa nung gear. kung taga WS ang magiging hurado, di kasi maiwasan na may inherent biases. what i am proposing is some sort of "blind test" na di ma-identify ang entries until the verdict has been rendered. tigin ko mas may objectivity -- not to mention mas exciting -- kung may element of mystery/anonymity.
- sana maintindihan ng ating mga katoto na kung may maging interesado sa alinmmang entry, hindi nangangahulugan na kung magpapagawa sila sa lumikha ng gear na yun, 35k yung cost. 35k kasi is the unit cost, or cost to produce -- wala dun yung proprietary aspect at labor cost which the DiYer has every right to factor in and determine.
yun lang po.
Hi Kabubs,
I don't know if we should really complicate all of this too much when it comes to cost. Hindi naman sana natin kailangang ikontrata ang SGV para dito I mean suppose one of the contestants is building his amp from his parts bin, and for sure lots of those parts will, do we go new retail or do we have to make them compute the street, used, or depreciated price? What if parts were scavenged? How do we assign a price for those? Hassle lang for them. IMO better to have them expend their energy on the creative and build aspects. Honor System na lang is my suggestion. Magkakaalaman rin naman kung may mang-gulang man.
As for the anonymous entries, I fully agree, I even volunteered to be head of the judge distraction committee aka gigimick kami habang nagsesetup kayo Judges won't know who made what. Scoring criteria and weights are being designed by VD. May scoring sheet that will be tabulated.
Jack
trod93 wrote:May entry na ako.
Joke . June pa pala.
TIA
ambel wrote:This is suppose to be fun. But it seems that it is heading in the direction of the saying "That to many cooks
Would spoil the broth". IMO
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