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jerryalz wrote:Hi arnoldc, if you read my post carefully i did not say that the ph 5 blew away the black cube. Indeed, regardless of price, i thought that the black cube performed very convincingly.
Speaking of component's blowing away another, I guess I'm a bit uncomfortable with the term "blew away," which, as in anything audio, is relative from one listener to another. In my case, a given component "blows away" another when after going back to the "inferior" component, one can no longer listen contentedly without constantly entertaining thoughts of how to squiggle the new piece of equipment into your rack knowing full well that its acquisition will create a serious fiscal crisis!Racio wrote:jerryalz wrote:Hi arnoldc, if you read my post carefully i did not say that the ph 5 blew away the black cube. Indeed, regardless of price, i thought that the black cube performed very convincingly.
When I auditioned the Francis' Lehmann BlackCube, I certainly felt that in my system, it blew the socks off my old MF XLP V1 in terms of shifts in dynamism, detail retrieval and frequency extension. But I never thought it would hold its own against the much expensive phonostages in the market. Thanks for sharing jerryalz.
jerryalz wrote:Speaking of component's blowing away another, I guess I'm a bit uncomfortable with the term "blew away," which, as in anything audio, is relative from one listener to another. In my case, a given component "blows away" another when after going back to the "inferior" component, one can no longer listen contentedly without constantly entertaining thoughts of how to squiggle the new piece of equipment into your rack knowing full well that its acquisition will create a serious fiscal crisis!Racio wrote:jerryalz wrote:Hi arnoldc, if you read my post carefully i did not say that the ph 5 blew away the black cube. Indeed, regardless of price, i thought that the black cube performed very convincingly.
When I auditioned the Francis' Lehmann BlackCube, I certainly felt that in my system, it blew the socks off my old MF XLP V1 in terms of shifts in dynamism, detail retrieval and frequency extension. But I never thought it would hold its own against the much expensive phonostages in the market. Thanks for sharing jerryalz.
jadis wrote:We need to clarify the price of the Ph5 from Lito himself. I thought the Ph3 was already
in the $2000 list price range when I bought mine 2 years ago. I believe the Ph5 should cost more, just a feeling. And the PH5 uses 4 pcs 6922 tubes,the PH3 uses only 3.
noctilux wrote:jadis wrote:We need to clarify the price of the Ph5 from Lito himself. I thought the Ph3 was already
in the $2000 list price range when I bought mine 2 years ago. I believe the Ph5 should cost more, just a feeling. And the PH5 uses 4 pcs 6922 tubes,the PH3 uses only 3.
Jadis,
Don't be surprised that the pricing now is more competitive. I wouldn't complain. We should be rejoicing than bewildered that a new product's price is close to that of the one it had replaced. Unless there's a rule in the hobby that says every equipment we upgrade to should be priced 500usd more than the current equipment.
There actually is a precendent to ARC's pricing scheme. If you get your Audio Buyer's Bible, the defunct Audio magazine annual buyer's guide issue, you may find out that the cost of the old PH1 was 1,500usd. The PH3 which replaced it was around that price as well and the PH1 did not have a single tube in it. I'm actually still using it to this day and gives me hours of joy. I may be cheating since I did a few mods on it.
rgds
Nocty
ihatejazz wrote:But on cost-no-object items we keep see prices skyrocketing. What could it be?
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