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Postby Oldfogey » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:06 pm

CJ Premier 16LS with Wavelength Venus 45 monos. Pretty good!
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Postby jadis » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:17 pm

JackD201 wrote:HT's Jadis JPS matched with his Halcro stereo amp (I hope Jadis can tell me which model was used)


Jack,

That model is the Jadis JPS MKII. Dual chassis, separate power supply that uses EL84 and EF86 in the PS and 3pcs 12AX7s and 1 pc 12AU7. I have heard Jadis pre-amps mated with Krell power amps, with Rowland Research, with ARCs, and even CJ and they all match pretty well. And, I should say, the Jadis pre-amps are also tube brand dependent, they can sound fast, detailed and revealing with things like Teles, Siemens, and EI, and warm and lush on Mullards and Amperex's.
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Postby jadis » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:20 pm

JackD201 wrote:Where is Mullard88? He has some eye popping combos to share from vintage ARCs to Spectral. Paging Mullard............

VD looking forward to the new 26 pre's match ups.


Mullard88 is still away, Jack; which is why we haven't visited the lair...He was away, here quickly, and away again. I think next month he'll be happy to share with us 'ALL THAT MATCHES' :lol: ....
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Postby jadis » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:33 pm

My own experience was with Jadis JPL line stage (single chassis version of the JPS MKII w/o the power supply). I have mated this with CJ MV125 amp, Jadis JA200 monos, and now the ARC VS110 amp. All worked well and has its own pros and cons. But all livable. With the CJ, super 'colored' mids, as in caramel indeed. The vocals have so much juice oozing out I felt I needed a cup to fill the overflowing juice. :D With the Jadis monos, it's lean and green, fit to the finish. Not so colored but refined sound. With the ARC's, less refinement but neutral mids and controlled bass. Now I begin to wonder why I never itch to change my JPL? It's not a bad pre-amp really, and it's been good to me. :lol:
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Postby rtsyrtsy » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:59 pm

Where's Hyperion? He's my pusher for my current FT Audio passive pre + CJ Premier 11a. The PV-11 worked well, too.
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Postby randybarba » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:06 pm

Ambel's Isabel with Cary rocket 88
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Postby pigdog » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:14 pm

waiting for Ambels customized Isabel this preamp uses ecc32 and Ecc33 and this will be matched with the 300B SET or to my LEAK 12.1 i first heard the Isabel during the recent audio show and i find it to be very musical and i suspect it will be a nice mate to the LEAK 12.1 also plannng to commission another preamp based on SETUP1
s design that will be for later this year and hopefully it will match with the 45 SET that i am embarking on
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Postby vintage_dog » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:14 pm

the Tono 6SN7 Violin was used with very good and enjoyable results with a variety of amps:

SETs:
- ELEKIT 2A3
- 45 amp
- Sun Audio vt25/10y
- Ambel 300b on angela chassis/iron
- canary audio 300b

Vintage:
- Dynaco st35/st70
- Eico hf35, hf60
- Marants 8
- quad 2s

SS:
- mcintosh 2105
- pioneer classA amp
- marantz ss amp
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Postby merlin » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:16 pm

ARC SP 9 with MF A3CR
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Postby crisdlr » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:19 am

BAT BK150 and Lamm LL2
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Postby JackD201 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:45 am

vintage_dog wrote:the Tono 6SN7 Violin was used with very good and enjoyable results with a variety of amps:

SETs:
- ELEKIT 2A3
- 45 amp
- Sun Audio vt25/10y
- Ambel 300b on angela chassis/iron
- canary audio 300b

Vintage:
- Dynaco st35/st70
- Eico hf35, hf60
- Marants 8
- quad 2s

SS:
- mcintosh 2105
- pioneer classA amp
- marantz ss amp



Add to this my former JE 300B and Black Beauty Sun 2a3s. The violin made my fleas sound like salagubangs.
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Postby AUDIO8 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:10 am

VTL 6.5 preamp and VTL MB 185 MKII. It's like having the mellow sound of tubes with the slam and quickness of SS amp.
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Postby JackD201 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:57 am

Lamm + Lamm

I've tried every preamp and amp combination except the $140,000 ML3 (but I've heard this too)

From tender to violent, soaring to subterranean. Sweet but not thick. Warm but not slow. The Tubes vs. Solid State debate is rendered moot and academic. They never sound like they're trying to straddle some fine line or deal with any compromises because they make none. Downside is that they require quite an investment yet aren't very pretty. The preamps look like lab equipment and have no remote and the hybrid Amps are solid black boulders and the tube amps retro sleds. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder however and one thing for sure is the looks won't become dated or laos over time. I have nicknamed them "Cylons" after the single Red LEDs that go back and forth when you've had too much to drink :lol:

Mullard88 who pushed me in this direction summed it up best. "They are both Yin and Yang."

BAT VK-31SE and Lamm M2.2

More colorful and airy, psychedelic even, but lost some of the grounded-ness of upright bass and drums. Everything seemed to be floating. Nice for chill out tracks.
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Postby audiostar » Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:59 am

Several preamps have gone in and out of music room: AR-SP16, CJ-PV7, AMX-DIY - but none seem to have matched with the multi-amp system I was building - a tri-amp config, using SET monoblocks.

Only two were able to do the job well: Cayin SC-SLS and Ambel's Isabel.

These two were able to bring out transparency, details and soundstge to my system. I switch between them to conserve on tube life.
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Postby Raf » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:15 pm

conspicuous wrote:Tono Violin 6SN7 pre-amp and Dynaco ST70 EL34 tube amplifier. This combo is able to make Dynaudio Audience 72 floor standing speakers sing :D


Tono Violin 6sn7 and Dynaco ST35 el84 :)

Also using an upgraded CJ PV-5 with a good match to the FF amps:

HK Citation II
Dynaco MK IV Monos
Fisher SA300
Eico HF60 Monos
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Postby Hyperion » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:15 pm

It is always safe to combine same brands preamp + amp. At least gain and impedance mismatches are usually avoided except when combining same brand amplification that are generations apart (definitely not a good idea!).

These combos work for me:

FT Audio LW-1 (passive) + CJ Premier 11a
CJ Premier 14 + CJ Premier 11a
Consonance Reference 1.1 + CJ Premier 11a
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Postby egay » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:26 pm

in the order that i had them:

MF X-P100 + MF-X-A200 - probably the best i had driving my Maggies then; stayed with me the longest.

ARC SP16 + Primare A32
SF SFL-2 + Primare A32

SF SFL-2 + SF Power 2 - i mean, what can i say? hindi mahiyain.

SF SFL-2 + Densen B-300 - i thought this was a glitch but what the heck - the combo sounds wonderful - fast & precise, warm & airy!

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Postby conspicuous » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:39 pm

JackD201 wrote:
vintage_dog wrote:the Tono 6SN7 Violin was used with very good and enjoyable results with a variety of amps:

SETs:
- ELEKIT 2A3
- 45 amp
- Sun Audio vt25/10y
- Ambel 300b on angela chassis/iron
- canary audio 300b

Vintage:
- Dynaco st35/st70
- Eico hf35, hf60
- Marants 8
- quad 2s

SS:
- mcintosh 2105
- pioneer classA amp
- marantz ss amp



Add to this my former JE 300B and Black Beauty Sun 2a3s. The violin made my fleas sound like salagubangs.


jack, if i remember correctly you also matched the tono violin with a mark levinson amp with good results?
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Postby JackD201 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:44 pm

conspicuous wrote:
JackD201 wrote:
vintage_dog wrote:the Tono 6SN7 Violin was used with very good and enjoyable results with a variety of amps:

SETs:
- ELEKIT 2A3
- 45 amp
- Sun Audio vt25/10y
- Ambel 300b on angela chassis/iron
- canary audio 300b

Vintage:
- Dynaco st35/st70
- Eico hf35, hf60
- Marants 8
- quad 2s

SS:
- mcintosh 2105
- pioneer classA amp
- marantz ss amp



Add to this my former JE 300B and Black Beauty Sun 2a3s. The violin made my fleas sound like salagubangs.


jack, if i remember correctly you also matched the tono violin with a mark levinson amp with good results?


We tried it but I sold my 23.5 soon after. I believe jean used the combo in her studio driving Ruarks :)
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Postby audioko » Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:01 am

Cary v12 w/ vtl 2.5
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