** Formula 1 2010 **

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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby onedown » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:43 am

arnold,

ok. i thought he had intentions of driving.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:09 am

onedown wrote:arnold,

ok. i thought he had intentions of driving.


I bet he does have the intention to drive!
If Stefan GP had become reality he would have been a driver.
I bet he dreams of nothing else like many more of us.

Arnold, Durango say they pulled out of GP2 because their existing and potential backers were more interested in F1
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Gino » Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:06 pm

Hey Tifosis, your boys are looking good for the German GP. My boys could only manage row 3. I'd love to see Vettel and Alonso survive the race and provide as a spectacle in the same dramatic way Rossi fought Stoner after a six week hiatus.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:14 pm

Gino wrote:Hey Tifosis, your boys are looking good for the German GP. My boys could only manage row 3. I'd love to see Vettel and Alonso survive the race and provide as a spectacle in the same dramatic way Rossi fought Stoner after a six week hiatus.



WoW, there are Tifosi in WS???
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:54 pm

enforce the team order rule, or drop it!
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby desmo » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:31 pm

The ban on team orders is intrinsically unenforceable (and therefore should be scrapped) unless a team goes about it in such an obvious manner, exactly the way Ferrari did. Absolutely no subtlety.

The post race interview was funny. The interviewer really knew how to turn the screws. Poor Fernando - his brilliance throughout the weekend will be overshadowed by this silly business. He deserved the win. Massa got ahead only because of Vettel's chop on Fernando at the start. I believe the faster driver between teamates should be allowed thru. Too many times this season, Alonso had to wallow behind his slower teamate, unable to overtake because of the circuit layouts.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:21 pm

This is easy for me to say as i am not supporting a driver this year....If a driver is ahead on championship points, and his team mate cannot catch him then allow team orders.

But, better to scrap this unenforcable rule.

Remember the days when a team could even pull a driver out of his car and give it to the other driver (if the lead (or favourite) driver crashed).

Allow testing, competing tyre manufacturers, technical inovation without limits, let drivers do doughnuts and bring back cigarette advertising ]:)
Scrap cost cutting and the engine freeze.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:49 am

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Felipe Massa, on the other hand, is always considered to be a honest man, who says what is on his mind. He did so in Hockenheim as well. He had done what he did because that was what was best for the team, he said. There was a nobility in that. One might not like the way things are done but one accepts them and deals with them in a classy way. Alonso does not understand that concept. He does not seem to understand that being what he calls “professional” is not really being professional at all.

...a certain mister Schumacher and now Alonso. It seems Ferrari found once again the kind of driver they like. One that fits perfectly with there mentality not like that Finish guy who didn’t care about politics.

when Graham Hill and Jim Clark were team mates at Lotus ,Graham Hill was asked “would you let Jim by to allow him to win the championship?” Graham Hill replied
“Of coure I will, if he can get by.” which was exaclty the answer that Jimmy would have wanted. True sportsmen with integrity.

why didn’t Felipe just say no at the end of the day. He could have and gone on to win but he choose to follow the order and has played himself into the number two role. Yes the team could try and drop him if he refused but then does he want to stay and play as number two for the rest of his Ferrari career?

Press conference :
Fernando, you said after Valencia that the race had been manipulated in favour of Lewis. Those words seem a bit hollow now. Where will this victory rank in your career, is it up there with Singapore 2008?

FA: I think you have a very strong result from Ferrari today, one and two, a very strong performance all weekend and if the final thought of the weekend is your question it's because maybe you didn't see the whole practice, qualifying and the race, so maybe it's too early for you that Ferrari came back so strong.

Q. (Ian Gordon - News of the World) Team orders are banned in Formula One. They were banned in 2002, that was blatant team orders.

FA: Sure.

Q. (Ian Gordon - News of the World) Eddie Jordan just said that you two should be kicked out of the race.

FA: Again, if this is the final thought of the weekend for you, I think it is because you didn't see the performance of the team and the performance from our car this weekend.

Q. (Juha Päätalo - Financial Times Germany) Fernando, I think we all know what happened on lap 48 and we don't need any fairy tales about tyres or anything to be clear of that. I just want to ask you, because in 2006 in Monza you said that Formula One is not a sport any more for you but was that which we saw today a sport?

FA: I think we tried to do our race, we tried to do as good as we can. We are professional drivers, we try to work in a team and we try to do the best we can every day, not only here on the track but also between the races, at the factory etc, preparing the races. Again, I think we've been doing a good job over the last couple of races and finally we got a strong Sunday with a strong result. I think we are happy with this, although there are things which are more for you if you want to write all these things.

Q. (Carlos Miquel - Diario AS) Fernando, do you feel that some people are worrying because you are back in the championship?

FA: Maybe it seems like this, yes.

Q. (Byron Young - The Daily Mirror) Fernando, what have you got to say to the people who would call this a dirty win and if you win the championship, a dirty champion?

FA: I have 19 races to... look at the overall races, there are a lot of points that we win sometimes and a lot of points that we lose sometimes. As I said, today was a good day, some other races were bad days for us, disappointing but as I said before, we need to remain focused, keep working, keep developing the car, not to be too excited when we win, not to be too down when we lose. In November, (we need to) try to be in the fight for the championship, not forgetting that Red Bull has so far been very dominant, not scoring many points on Sunday, or the points that they should have scored on Sunday, but remain very strong and McLaren as well, leading both championships, so there is still a long way to go for us.

Q. (Byron Young - The Daily Mirror) The reality is, though, that you couldn't beat him on the track, so you had to get the team to do it for you.

FA: If that's your opinion.

Q. (Byron Young - The Daily Mirror) I'm asking you, is that not your opinion?

FA: No.

Q. (Byron Young - The Daily Mirror) He had to give you this win, didn't he, Fernando?

FA: No.

Q. (Ian Parkes - The Press Association) Fernando, you've said that you're happy with this win but to be honest, I've never seen a driver look less happy in the middle of a podium there today, and in the middle of this press conference here. Why can't you just be honest with us for once, and just admit that this win was handed to you on a plate today?

SV: Can I go? Q. (Ian Parkes - The Press Association) Go Sebastian! Sebastian, give us your thoughts?

FA: Hopefully the next question is for Sebastian. No, stay, stay. As I said, I think we were competitive on Friday, I was very competitive on Friday, first position. Finishing second in qualifying by 12 centimeters, I heard yesterday and today I think we scored the fastest lap of the race, so overall I don't think I was very slow this weekend.

Q. (Miran Alisic - Korpmedia) I have a question for Sebastian. I think you had some not similar but close situations with Mark as well. Do you feel proud that what has happened at Ferrari today hasn't happened in your team?

SV: Don't you have another question maybe? Yeah, maybe they should have crashed. I don't know, I haven't seen the incident. I was too far back. I always saw them going into the hairpin when I was coming out of turn five, so I don't know what you're all talking about. I can guess but I don't know. For sure my advice would not be it's better to crash because also then you get a lot of questions that you have to answer so... Yeah, for me I was focusing on my own race and trying to do my thing, trying to stay close enough, trying to get closer, trying to put them under pressure. It didn't work, so I'm not pleased with that. No matter who you race, it's always difficult in Formula One to pass people and sometimes you have to take a lot of risk. When you don't have to race your team-mate, you're racing for the team, both of you, both drivers and on the other hand everyone looks for his own advantage. We had a couple of situations this year in our team, so it's quite a comedy that we are not in focus at this stage but life changes quickly, so... It's never wise to say anything that you might regret. Maybe in a week's time. I'm happy where we are now, as a team. Again, I can only repeat that from the outside there was more of a fuss made than there was inside. I can assure you that Mark and myself are always looking to do our best but on top of that, I think we understood many times this year that the team is the main priority and we are racing for the team, in the end. We don't get our cheque from you guys, we get it from the team. I think that's something we always have to respect.

Q. (Ralf Bach - R & B) Felipe, you said it was your decision to let Fernando past, so my first question is why did you take this decision, as a racing driver in Formula One, and my second question is do you have any idea why Rob Smedley said sorry to you?

FM: No. (Regarding your first question) As I said, because I was not so strong on the hard, so we need to think about the team.

Q. (Livio Oricchio - O Estado de Sao Paulo) Felipe, Rubens damaged his image a lot in Brazil when he did what you did today. Until now you had the support of the country; aren't you worried that now after you did what Rubens did you have deeply damaged your image in Brazil?

FM: For sure not, for sure not. I'm very professional and I've showed in my career how professional I am. You are professional as well, you work for a company. I believe you are doing what you have to do, so I'm professional and today I showed how professional I am. That's it.

Q. (Tony Dodgins - Tony Dodgins Associates) Fernando you're getting quite a bit of flak but as you say, you've been the quicker Ferrari driver for most of the weekend. We see it so often that the guy who is second on the grid gets beaten away by the guy who is third. Is there ever a case for actually asking to reverse the positions on the grid?

FA: I think there are some circuits where the clean side is an advantage. There are some circuits where it is not an advantage, for example in Hungary next weekend, it will be crucial to be on the clean side. There are other circuits like that. There's nothing we can do. We have a fifty percent chance of being on the clean or dirty side of the grid, unless you are the quickest which secures the clean side. The only thing we can do is to fight for pole position which allows you to be on the clean side. If not, I don't see any other possibility. Maybe there should be more distance. Instead of eight meters, maybe 12 or whatever.

Q. (Tony Dodgins - Tony Dodgins Associates) Take today, if you'd been able to opt to start third instead of second and actually swap places, would you have done it?

FA: Maybe I would have done a bad start, you never know. I think it was a good start today, overtaking Sebastian and that was our target today. You never know.

Q. (Anne Giuntini - L'Equipe) To both Fernando and Felipe, we always talk about the show, the necessity of the show in Formula One. Can you conceive that race lovers and show lovers might be a bit frustrated today?

FA: Well, I think we try to put on a good show always for people, for spectators but as Felipe or Sebastian said, we work for companies, we work for teams. Sometimes, as we saw this year, there are crashes between team-mates and the loss of 42 points for the team. Today Ferrari has 42 in their pocket, so I think it's what we are here for.

Q. (Ted Kravitz - BBC Sport) Fernando, after the pit stop, when you were behind Felipe, we heard a radio message, it wasn't very clear, but it sounded like you were telling the team guys 'think of the victory.' Did you say that?

FA: No.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby dudong » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:10 am

At the end of the day Santander pays the bills... Now we know why Raikkonen got the boot and Massa stayed and was signed for 2011.

When Ferrari did the same thing in 2002, Michael was obviously embarrassed and actually offered the top podium to Rubens. We cannot say the same for Alonso...
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Gino » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:25 am

If it weren't for Alonso's pass, this weekend was clearly a snooze fest. Now F1 is alive and is once again hitting the headlines. The bigger story? Ferrari is back. No it's McLaren relegated back to row 3. Work on that flexible wing already.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby desmo » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:27 pm

Ang hina naman ni Alonso, letting those reporters bait him. It was team orders so why not let the team answer. All he had to do was say something like "i just drove as fast as I could - it's not my problem if people in front of me slowed down".

As a Ferarri fan, I'm glad they did what they did (although they could've done it less obviously - Smedley's "sorry" over the radio was a dead giveaway). Reason being it's plain to see that Alonso, not Filipe, has got what it takes to take the title, coming from so far back.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Gino » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:10 am

The adrenaline rush of post race was like a truth serum. These wee race drivers and not publicists. One way or another the truth came out. Besides the truth was obvious. The questions were rhetorical. It was an awkward conference and the press were just having a feast.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:20 pm

Quote from Durango team manager Ivone Pinton

"His incredible will to get back on the track is contagious after just a few minutes of talking with him. I hope Jacques will soon be able to have an F1 seat, because that will mean we are definitely in the circus."
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby arnoldc » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:44 am

Hey Paul, MINI is joining the WRC next year, full-time in 2012...
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Gino » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:37 pm

There is a very nice segment on Senna in Top Gear 5th episode.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:16 pm

arnoldc wrote:Hey Paul, MINI is joining the WRC next year, full-time in 2012...


So is Ford's new Fiesta, look out world!
If the Fiesta lives up to it's hype, it could kill off the WRC :(
Which would put Kimi back in F1 :D
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:41 pm

Jaques Villeneuve confirmed again that should his team's bid to enter F1 next year be successful it is his intention to drive.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Gino » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:01 pm

Now that's determination.

Anyone here with an iPhone or an iPod Touch? I've been playing the F1 2009 Game. It is a real kick and gives me added appreciation of the various tracks and racing lines. The game is multiplatform. iPhone,PSP, PS3, XBOX.
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:05 am

Gino wrote:Now that's determination.

Anyone here with an iPhone or an iPod Touch? I've been playing the F1 2009 Game. It is a real kick and gives me added appreciation of the various tracks and racing lines. The game is multiplatform. iPhone,PSP, PS3, XBOX.


Last one i played was Grand Prix, i think it was DOS based :$
Even though just a game, i could never control everything at the same time. If the computer had control of brakes and gears i was ok, but as soon as i tried the brakes myself i lost so much time!
I loved it, i should try the latest, get a proper seat etc and simulate a simulator ;)
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Re: ** Formula 1 2010 **

Postby Mamimili » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:27 am

Who said that if you keep saying something it will become truth? That if you wish for something long enough it will happen?

Oh happy me, the Good Old Days are set to return, from Autosport :

Formula 1 teams are closing in on finalising all-new regulations for 2013 that will likely see a return of ground effect cars and turbo engines - as the sport witnessed in the early 1980's.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86341

It's not April so it must be true, fingers and toes crossed
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