rascal101 wrote:
Tama po kayo at hindi kakayanin ng scope yung galaw ng hangin.
Nakikita lang noon iyung signal na pumapasok sa speaker. Kung meron pong pumasok sigurado meron lalabas
Baka diyan ka nagkakamali bro.
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rascal101 wrote:
Tama po kayo at hindi kakayanin ng scope yung galaw ng hangin.
Nakikita lang noon iyung signal na pumapasok sa speaker. Kung meron pong pumasok sigurado meron lalabas
arnoldc wrote:Kabubs, mababawasan yung inductance pag pinutol... pag sigaw nya ng "by the powers of greyskull..." baka 'di kumidlat
rascal101 wrote:To summarize what I am saying and to rephrase, a playback system with phase correction greatly helps with separation of low freq, mid freq and high freq may minimize the need for a sub-woofer.
A phase lead or lag causes the resultant sound to be forward or further from the normal background, respectively.
JackD201 wrote:rascal101 wrote:
Tama po kayo at hindi kakayanin ng scope yung galaw ng hangin.
Nakikita lang noon iyung signal na pumapasok sa speaker. Kung meron pong pumasok sigurado meron lalabas
Baka diyan ka nagkakamali bro.
ESaudio wrote:rascal101 wrote:To summarize what I am saying and to rephrase, a playback system with phase correction greatly helps with separation of low freq, mid freq and high freq may minimize the need for a sub-woofer.
A phase lead or lag causes the resultant sound to be forward or further from the normal background, respectively.
Bro, how would you determine that the phase or signal separation coming from your CD player or TT is correct? Would you care to share if you have any gadget to test or determine this coz so far i have no problem with my CD players or even my seldom-used, if not unused, TTs? For me, the only thing that matters and really makes the difference is the audio recording and the mixing. I guess all of us can always tell whether a CD or an LP has a bad recording or nice recording.
So what i am looking for in an audio system is the proper, if not a perfect, tonal balance (is this what we call "correct phasing?) in an audio recording or music.
rascal101 wrote: For me, as long as the timing of frequencies (highs, mids and lows) are heard in this order then the phase is correct. So, the cymbals should arrive first, then the vocals then the base.
rascal101 wrote:ESaudio wrote:rascal101 wrote:To summarize what I am saying and to rephrase, a playback system with phase correction greatly helps with separation of low freq, mid freq and high freq may minimize the need for a sub-woofer.
A phase lead or lag causes the resultant sound to be forward or further from the normal background, respectively.
Bro, how would you determine that the phase or signal separation coming from your CD player or TT is correct? Would you care to share if you have any gadget to test or determine this coz so far i have no problem with my CD players or even my seldom-used, if not unused, TTs? For me, the only thing that matters and really makes the difference is the audio recording and the mixing. I guess all of us can always tell whether a CD or an LP has a bad recording or nice recording.
So what i am looking for in an audio system is the proper, if not a perfect, tonal balance (is this what we call "correct phasing?) in an audio recording or music.
For me, as long as the timing of frequencies (highs, mids and lows) are heard in this order then the phase is correct. So, the cymbals should arrive first, then the vocals then the base.
rascal101 wrote:JackD201 wrote:rascal101 wrote:
Tama po kayo at hindi kakayanin ng scope yung galaw ng hangin.
Nakikita lang noon iyung signal na pumapasok sa speaker. Kung meron pong pumasok sigurado meron lalabas
Baka diyan ka nagkakamali bro.
If you can explain on the mechanical side of the speaker it would be of great help to people who focus more on the magnetic side.
rascal101 wrote:ESaudio wrote:rascal101 wrote:To summarize what I am saying and to rephrase, a playback system with phase correction greatly helps with separation of low freq, mid freq and high freq may minimize the need for a sub-woofer.
A phase lead or lag causes the resultant sound to be forward or further from the normal background, respectively.
Bro, how would you determine that the phase or signal separation coming from your CD player or TT is correct? Would you care to share if you have any gadget to test or determine this coz so far i have no problem with my CD players or even my seldom-used, if not unused, TTs? For me, the only thing that matters and really makes the difference is the audio recording and the mixing. I guess all of us can always tell whether a CD or an LP has a bad recording or nice recording.
So what i am looking for in an audio system is the proper, if not a perfect, tonal balance (is this what we call "correct phasing?) in an audio recording or music.
For me, as long as the timing of frequencies (highs, mids and lows) are heard in this order then the phase is correct. So, the cymbals should arrive first, then the vocals then the base.
Squirrelnutzipper wrote:This is not very clear. Phase alignment and time alignment are the same here? Why would you want high, mid and low to arrive to the listener in that order, especially if the placement of the instruments in the recording venue is different than this order? Sorry if I am missing something here, because of the mixed language being used.
Squirrelnutzipper wrote:This is not very clear. Phase alignment and time alignment are the same here? Why would you want high, mid and low to arrive to the listener in that order, especially if the placement of the instruments in the recording venue is different than this order? Sorry if I am missing something here, because of the mixed language being used.
rascal101 wrote:Sa aking pagkakaintindi kapag phase correct, time aligned po ang tunog.
Hindi ko po kabisado ang practices ng speaker makers. Ang sure lang ako, kapag nagsabay ang low freq at high freq sa speakers (lalo na iyung may passive crossover) hirap talaga ma distinguish ang low. Lalabas kasi na bumababa iyung impedance ng woofer capacitor dahil sa pagpasok high freq. Sa saglit na iyon o maikling sandaling iyon, halos wala tayong maririnig sa woofer.
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