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m_shoe_maker wrote:Cartridge House Sound
ihatejazz wrote:JackD201 wrote:Bless the dude that knows a good thing when he hears it.
That is why you make the choice. I 'm sure God blessed you!
JackD201 wrote:Take for example the Clearaudio Titanium vs. The Dynavector XV-1s, "They are more alike than they are different"
Yet these minutae are profound. The subliminal ease and spirit like touch of the XV-1s or the Glorious Crescendos and Gutwrenching slam of the CA Titanium but with the extremely faithful and natural midrange possessed by both.
By both?? Uh huh. Which to choose? BUY BOTH!
JackD201 wrote:ihatejazz wrote:JackD201 wrote:Bless the dude that knows a good thing when he hears it.
That is why you make the choice. I 'm sure God blessed you!
Myself and MANY others
The old language used by reviewers in the past is not enough to describe today's products. The landscape has changed so much. All these reviewers now sound confused or at least at a loss for words.
That's what a good cart (or any other piece of good gear) can do to a reviewer.
Believe it. There has been a paradigm shift. The best of the best are notable for what they do not do as opposed to what they do well.
Describe that!
Imagine today you can get gear that is detailed, sweet, dynamic, lush, smooth, lightning quick, airy, solid all in one package Hindi na uso manipis, mataba o matining etc. There are carts, decks,cdps, pres, amps and speakers that can do all............depending on what's on the recording
I think this is TRUE neutrality not the old concept of being dry, dead, antiseptic etc. Todays generation of gear gets so much right they are hard write about.
Take for example the Clearaudio Titanium vs. The Dynavector XV-1s, "They are more alike than they are different"
Yet these minutae are profound. The subliminal ease and spirit like touch of the XV-1s or the Glorious Crescendos and Gutwrenching slam of the CA Titanium but with the extremely faithful and natural midrange possessed by both.
By both?? Uh huh. Which to choose? BUY BOTH!
ihatejazz wrote:Anxiously waiting for Mr. House Sound's comment
m_shoe_maker wrote:ihatejazz wrote:Anxiously waiting for Mr. House Sound's comment
Aba, hinahamon ako ah.
Ok, so ano ba talaga tong "House Sound" na ito BS lang ba to HawShao lang ba to Actually, it really depends on you, the listener. Kung may napapansin ka, meron, kung wala, then God blessed you.
I personally believe that its the distinct "sonic signature" the manufacturer "leaves" in its product / brand, which makes one successful or palpak, loved or hated, praised or ridiculed.
If you think wala to, then wala talaga, end of story, and they lived happily ever after.
Ok, let's leave our personal thoughts about this, and ponder on how the manufacturer thinks......
This hobby of ours is very subjective. Alam natin yan diba
It is so because, we, humans, all have our personal preferences. Alam rin natin to diba
Owners of audio manufacturers are humans too diba Well, iba buwaya kasi garapal mag presyo ng producto. Anyway, these guys too may have their own personal preferences or perception of what is the "correct" sound. Are you still with me here
So, given this very personal perception, manufacturers "voice" their products based on what they think is "correct" given their "reference" ancillary equipment used (another variable which influences how the manufacturers will "voice" his product).
Eh pano kung bingi yung owner ng isang audio company
Yes, in certain cases nag-iiba yung "House Sound" to different degrees. Take for instance VPI. Old VPIs sound different. Dark would be the more common adjective. This may be bacause of the platter/bearing combo. Old VPIs used those heavy platters with acrylic, stainless steel, and lead (inside). Now they use all acryluc platters with inverted bearings. Whether they did this for cost reasons, it changed the their tables' character. Its now more open, IMHO.
The question of, "Did it changed ", can be argued 'til death do us part, but fact is, there are some people who still prefer the old school platter as opposed to the new all-acrylic platter. Why Siguro naman.... kasi iba tumunog.... ayaw pa rin maniwala O sige na nga, mas maporma yung old school platter eh. That's the real reason.
Teka-teka, VPI yan ah, eh bakit umiba tunog, ano nangyari sa house sound Yup umiba nga, but IMHO, its sonic signature is still there, the "weighty mid-bass down to the bass" which IMHO, is a bit on the colored side as compared to others.
Teka-teka, eh bakit nga nag iba Baka naglinis lang ng tenga si Harry Weisfeld Wait a minute Baka naman its because before, he used the Clearaudio Insider Reference as his reference cart to tune his products, and now he uses a Dynavector XV1s.. Baka lang......
Kung BS lang ang "House Sound" of carts, then there is no point in cart rolling. This would make life so boring.
Kaya dapat meron
manilaman wrote:ihatejazz wrote:Galit!! KD, S.O.S. naman. Baka tayo maubusan d2!!!
Eh nag tanong ka ng definition, eh di sumagot. Tama nga ba ang sagot? O subjective ulit?
ihatejazz wrote:manilaman wrote:ihatejazz wrote:Galit!! KD, S.O.S. naman. Baka tayo maubusan d2!!!
Eh nag tanong ka ng definition, eh di sumagot. Tama nga ba ang sagot? O subjective ulit?
Blind Man: How is the steak?
Deaf Man: Best looking turkey almost looks like a peacock!
manilaman wrote:ihatejazz wrote:manilaman wrote:ihatejazz wrote:Galit!! KD, S.O.S. naman. Baka tayo maubusan d2!!!
Eh nag tanong ka ng definition, eh di sumagot. Tama nga ba ang sagot? O subjective ulit?
Blind Man: How is the steak?
Deaf Man: Best looking turkey almost looks like a peacock!
He can't sell "House sound".
kukang wrote:ihatejazz wrote:Mr. House Sound (doesn't it rhyme with HAW SIAO) not a sales man. He's going to be the future Gov of Central Bank. Kaya dikit ako dyan!!!!
IHJ, aren't you "The Central Bank"?
kukang wrote:ihatejazz wrote:Mr. House Sound (doesn't it rhyme with HAW SIAO) not a sales man. He's going to be the future Gov of Central Bank. Kaya dikit ako dyan!!!!
IHJ, aren't you "The Central Bank"?
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