camotecue wrote:joey,
have you tried this > Ipod/Ipad/Iphone ---> preamp/amp against your present set-up? if your preamp can handle direct connection with the source, i think this might sound better.
JoeyGS wrote:Even Ipod Lineout to USB = Analog?
muypogi wrote:JoeyGS wrote:Even Ipod Lineout to USB = Analog?
Digital yes, but you will still be using the ipod's internal DAC.
carbondated wrote:muypogi wrote:JoeyGS wrote:Even Ipod Lineout to USB = Analog?
Digital yes, but you will still be using the ipod's internal DAC.
I think it depends on what you plug the USB into. Apple is licensing the digital out more freely now, so more companies than the 5 mentioned above can access the digital out, and those that to can either dock the iPod with a male 30-pin connector or access it via USB (like the Naim DAC). I think if even the HRT iStreamer gets the digital out and bypasses the internal DAC
fld wrote:the HRT i-streamer can make good use of ipad/ipod and iphone. it bypasses the i device dac and uses its dac.
i've been using the i streamer for quite sometime now with my ipad and ipod and the sound is very good even on a revealing system (a.k.a ATC SCM19 speakers).
Hope that helps.
muypogi wrote:fld wrote:the HRT i-streamer can make good use of ipad/ipod and iphone. it bypasses the i device dac and uses its dac.
i've been using the i streamer for quite sometime now with my ipad and ipod and the sound is very good even on a revealing system (a.k.a ATC SCM19 speakers).
Hope that helps.
Apologies for hijacking this thread, pero boss fld what streamer would you recommend for a small office system that uses an ipod as its main source? How much ?
muypogi wrote:Nope. Only a few apple authorized components can access the digital out from the ipod/iphone. Lod connectors simply bypass the inferior op amps of the headphone out, but still output an analog signal.
If you want to access the digital out you can get:
1) Wadia ipod dock
2) Luxman ipod dock
3) Naim network players
4) Cambridge ipod dock
5) Pure audio dock
Some other companies i can't remember.
Or you can just use the optical out from the headphone output of any mac computer, or the airport express.
carbondated wrote:Okay, because I'm such a geek I looked it up and found this: http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml
So it looks like any old 30-pin connector can access the audio, but if you're connecting using USB you're getting *data* -- which by definition in this context is digital...
JoeyGS wrote:When I hook up my Ipod to the computer via USB cable, I am able to play the Ipod's music via Itunes. So, the question is...... in doing this, is the Ipod sending pure digital music data into the computer via the USB cable and then Itunes send its either to the computer's sound card or to another USB so its gets processed by an external DAC?
muypogi wrote:JoeyGS wrote:When I hook up my Ipod to the computer via USB cable, I am able to play the Ipod's music via Itunes. So, the question is...... in doing this, is the Ipod sending pure digital music data into the computer via the USB cable and then Itunes send its either to the computer's sound card or to another USB so its gets processed by an external DAC?
That one I honestly don't know. But if Apple is to be consistent, then you are still using the iPod's internal DAC. You can feed the music that the iPod sends to the laptop via USB to an external DAC, but I'm assuming you're sending a stream already processed by the internal iPod DAC.
If you're using a PC/Mac anyway, why not play directly from the computer, which is sure to output a digital signal via toslink or USB depending on whether you use a mac or PC?
muypogi wrote:Then you may have no choice but to buy the Wadia Dock, as that one has been reviewed extensively and has proven to be a very reliable "high-end" DAC that has access to the pure digital stream of an iPod. Why not get one on demo and try it out with the DAC that you're using?
AFAIK, I know of no Apple or third party ipod LOD cable that is capable of bypassing the internal DAC. Even the Red Wine LODs and the iPod mod still use the internal DAC of the iPod.
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