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12" Norelco full range in OB

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:30 pm
by nicole
Driver
Brand name: Norelco (Philips) From Bernard's collections (0916-385-9524)
Model : AD 5200
Diameter : 12 inch
Rated input: 20 watts
Sensitivity : 90+++db
Magnet : Alnico

actual unit :
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:24 pm
by real top
Wow, full range padinig naman sir.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:58 pm
by edrel sison
how does it sounded ronald? worth the effort ba and the money?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:52 pm
by ichabod
Maybe the thread I posted in "general audio" should be transfered here, but of course OBs are better driven by SET amps if only to broach the topic a bit more.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:58 pm
by ichabod
There's a fine coxial Stromberg Carlson 12s on ebay. Anyone looking for drivers for OBs should look at these. Mint and nice looking pair. The design is similar to the Pioneer of BenC reported here a while back. I heard these stromberg red cone drivers are nice just as their amps are. I own several strombergs and they're good. A deeper tone than the fishers with a nice huge soundstage that stays clear all the way.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:52 pm
by detubo
wow i have more or less the same driver, philips ad 1255 m7. i have not mounted them yet but i sure would like to hear your comment on how they sound like. what kind of amp are you using it with?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:08 pm
by ichabod
If the question is for me, sorry I have no idea how these strombergs sound. But I've heard they're good like most known vintage speakers in the likes of Altec 755As, R & As, Hartleys, Corals (16 ohmers), and who knows some others like the Pioneer of BenC as he has reported here, klangfilm Siemens amongst many other German single drivers.

The 8 inch Richard Allan pair that I got are nice sounding British speakers. I like them over the Altec 4303A alnico types which were my first pair of full range speakers. The R & As sound deeper, sweeter, romantic if you like, and are extended a little further on that they can pass almost like a two way speaker sans the sometimes worrisome effects of tweeters on some program materials.

For the R & As I use an old tube rectified fisher called "the 101." PP el84s using old U.S. tubes.

The altecs are now temporarily being listened to in my sala since my wife is away in Manila for a short vacation with her folks. The De Wald amp drives them, still an el84 pp integrated. Have yet to try a SET amp from Mang Rod. So the experiment with amps is on going. But thus far I like what I hear already. Hope this helps to answer what works on SDs. Give that Pilot another listen. Regards Tony.

James

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:38 pm
by nicole
Detubo,

For me it sounds ok, its just like your listening into a two way speaker, complete, high,mid & low. ok ang mid & sound stage satisfied na ako. kaya lang my friend said that kulang naman daw sa bass. (syempre Open baffle nga eh!) presently using it with my ST70 & MF-XPRE.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:05 am
by ichabod
Try adjusting the distance of your OBs to the back wall. You have to find that spot where it will optimize everything including the base. Get a good toe-in perhaps if you haven't. Mine is about 27-28 inches to the wall on the inner side, and about 38 inches on the outer. Good luck.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:07 am
by detubo
this is how i plan to implement my philips

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what you think guys

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:35 pm
by arnoldc
para syang plantsahan :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:36 pm
by detubo
coffee table naman na pina tayo. the modification i plan to do is install side and top panels. this i hope will compensate for the low freq.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:09 pm
by ichabod
I hope you can try the pilot 240 on them. The pp el84s are known to be of good use on them OBs.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:17 pm
by detubo
ichabod wrote:I hope you can try the pilot 240 on them. The pp el84s are known to be of good use on them OBs.


in your opinion, whats your favorite 12ax & el 84 to go with the pilot?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:54 pm
by Oldfogey
Tonyboy,

I'd be interested in your opinion on whether your SET or PP amps will be a more synergistic match with your OB's. :)

Tube rolling na naman :twisted:

OF

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:01 pm
by nicole
Try adjusting the distance of your OBs to the back wall. You have to find that spot where it will optimize everything including the base. Get a good toe-in perhaps if you haven't. Mine is about 27-28 inches to the wall on the inner side, and about 38 inches on the outer. Good luck.

Thanks for the advise,

Nice plan sir DETUBO, maybe it will help to produce the low frequency with modification for installing the top & side panel.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:03 pm
by nicole
Try adjusting the distance of your OBs to the back wall. You have to find that spot where it will optimize everything including the base. Get a good toe-in perhaps if you haven't. Mine is about 27-28 inches to the wall on the inner side, and about 38 inches on the outer. Good luck.

Thanks for the advise,

Nice plan sir DETUBO, maybe it will help to produce the low frequency with modification for installing the top & side panel.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:54 pm
by hanns76
Sir ang tagal ko na hinahanap yang Norelco 12". meron ako dati niyan together with Pioneer PAX 30. I inherited them from my father. housed in a DIY, L Box kaso na sunog. kasama ng house namin dito sa Pasay. up to now wala pa akong naririnig na katulad ng perforamance nito.

sir magkano po at saan po ba pwede maka bili nito? pls PM naman

thanks!

Re: 12" Norelco full range in OB

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:45 am
by obsi
I can't wait to hear this! :)