Conquering a square room (with Altec 2459a OBs)

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Postby arnoldc » Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:50 pm

mga dimonyo :lol:
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Postby Killer Mike » Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:46 pm

Jon Agner wrote:Acrylic OB speakers + Acrylic Flexy Table + Clearaudio... Aba'y puwede nang pang "HIFI SHOW" :)


ganda ganda...hehe... :D :twisted:
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Postby arnoldc » Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:43 pm

hintayin mo akong magkapera :lol:
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Postby zetroce » Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:57 pm

arnoldc wrote:hintayin mo akong magkapera :lol:


Tirahin mo na, puwede naman yatang terms kay Mike eh..... :twisted: :D :twisted: :D
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Postby arnoldc » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:05 pm

yung source ng acrylic 'dre hindi pwede terms, ang layo pa nasa kalookan :(
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Postby Killer Mike » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:06 pm

zetroce wrote:
arnoldc wrote:hintayin mo akong magkapera :lol:


Tirahin mo na, puwede naman yatang terms kay Mike eh..... :twisted: :D :twisted: :D


sundutin nyo pa ng konti para mabutas na :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zetroce » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:24 pm

Mike wrote:
zetroce wrote:
arnoldc wrote:hintayin mo akong magkapera :lol:


Tirahin mo na, puwede naman yatang terms kay Mike eh..... :twisted: :D :twisted: :D


sundutin nyo pa ng konti para mabutas na :lol: :lol: :lol:


Bigyan mo lang ng 3 months or 6 months to pay, interest free, tuloy na yan... :D :D :twisted:
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Postby Killer Mike » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:37 pm

May financing doon sa kabilang kalye :lol: :twisted:
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Postby zetroce » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:40 pm

Mike wrote:May financing doon sa kabilang kalye :lol: :twisted:


Iwan daw muna sa iyo Mike yung 300B, pang-collateral... :D :D

Si Arnold pa, mawawalan ng pera... :twisted:

Peace tayo sir.... :D
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Postby arnoldc » Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:05 pm

mga dimonyo :lol: antayin nyo na lang :)
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Postby rtsyrtsy » Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:37 pm

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arnoldc wrote:red76, wag ka demonyo :lol: mapapamahal ako :lol:

(maganda ba tumunog acrylic?) :twisted:


:twisted: ... yung ClearAudio mo may ka terno na kung sakali :D ... im not sure kung maganda tumunog, but as "wings" i dont think there would be any sonic penalty. Maganda for me at least yung may wood pa rin as "pillar" kung saan naka mount yung drivers.


I'm not sure if you were alluding an answer to this question but I'll ask it anyway...

Was the wood-acrylic combo purely for gaining pogi points or are there sonic benefits?

Long term, would acrylic stay clear given dust, wear & tear, etc.?

Thanks in advance!
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Postby Jon Agner » Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:37 am

arnoldc wrote:mga dimonyo :lol: antayin nyo na lang :)


Konti pang sundot, bibigay na :D :D :D
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Postby vintage_dog » Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:44 am

arnoldc wrote:
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I'm not sure how this will go along with your room accent but, I know you have ways :)


i'm having my OB made for the 2459a. should be done by tomorrow :-)
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Postby arnoldc » Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:57 am

sigurado akong pogi yan! same tone ba as the jap cabinets? kelan ko ibalik yung Sun Audio mo? O ayaw mo na nun? :twisted: :lol:
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Postby vintage_dog » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:08 am

arnoldc wrote:sigurado akong pogi yan! same tone ba as the jap cabinets? kelan ko ibalik yung Sun Audio mo? O ayaw mo na nun? :twisted: :lol:


pagna set-up ko sa garahe ung OB, pakinggan natin with the Sun. tingnan natin kung magustuhan nang mga kapitbahay ko :lol:
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Postby red76 » Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:31 pm

Was the wood-acrylic combo purely for gaining pogi points or are there sonic benefits?


Thanks in advance!


Hi rtsy,


Pogi points?? Taste is subjective.. Sound?? the only way to find out is to try, I just based it on my gut feel that coupling different materials w/ different resonant proprties could prove "synergistic"? Again, the only way to find out is to try... Could be an expensive exercise though (diba Arnold?? hehe)....


Long term, would acrylic stay clear given dust, wear & tear, etc.?



Quality of acrylic just like wood is important, just ask Mike or ihatejazz ... Anyways, different types of quality/thickness of wood and acrylic combined could sound widely different. So it's mainly down to availability and choice.

For OB testing purposes though, "voidless" marine ply muna.
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Postby arnoldc » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:51 am

vintage_dog, i don't know if your neighbors will like it :lol: but macolive who listen to them last week described the Altec 2459A in OB as "electrostatic sounding."

red76, ayaw ko na ng acrylic. masakit sa bulsa. on secontot, yung inaawitan ko dito na executive table ay 5K, samatalang yung isang sheet ng 6' x 4' na acrylic ay 5.9K.... hmmm, esep esep :lol:
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Postby vintage_dog » Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:23 am

5pm saturday. my open baffles with Altec 2459As were finally hooked-up to the Tono 300b. Wow, these speakers threw a huge sound extending beyond the walls of my music room.

i must admit, i've not been a big fan of OBs. the ones i've heard had those giant 15 inchers. they played loud indeed but you have to step back some 30 feet away to really appreciate them. not the 8 inch drivers. they are simply perfect for most rooms.

i was very surprised these speakers produced decent bass (well, not as deep as ike's voigts), but low enough you won't beg for more. vocals, strings (guitar, piano) and winds (sax, trumpet, flute) came through very clearly, articulately....

these speakers far exceeded my expectations on how vintage speakers and open baffles should sound. they sang beautifully with 1.3 watts per channel of power from the Sun Audio VT25 amp. what a combo. i've been looking for a perfect pair for these amps, and the altec is the answer! the sound is a hybrid Fostex and LS3/5A, but probably better in the mids...listen for yourself.

thanks to arnold...this guy is a bad influence though. now i have to find a spot for these speakers in my already crowded music room :-) special thanks to JohnP, who gave me these drivers sometime last year (and it has been gathering dust until yesterday).

i'll try them on some analog this sunday.
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Postby mozilla » Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:41 am

These OB's sound great. I had a chancetolisten to arnold's and they exhibited a natural,open quality that had the ease of a Quad ESL. My initial expectations were confirmed and left me with favorable impressions.

Instruments & vocals were presented in a huge space that was fabulously open and natural. This was definitely the opposite of the boxy, closed-in sound from regular speakers. It also did not have the box resonances of typical cone speakers w/ enclosures.

Bass was better that I thought it would be. It was not as low and defined as arnold's other altec system but it was good enough for most material I tend to listen to. If my memory serves me right, there are only few instruments that go lower than 80Hz- a double bass,pipe organ,timpani and piano.

Guitar plucks were very well handled. Piano was rendered well but I detected some overhang and smearing in the transient attack. These did not distract from the music or slowed it down. A slight lowering of the volume level ameliorated the response so I suspect it can probably be corrected with a little more room damping.

Being a single driver, the OB did not exhibit anyof the disjointed FR common with poorly integrated drivers. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I wonder how it would sound with a 45 or monoplate 2A3. :)

Now let's try that 755A OB...
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Postby arnoldc » Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:00 am

vintage_dog, welcome to Altec world :) glad to hear you like them. these speakers produce bass better than the Infinity would in my room. it also is not sensitive to speaker placement, does not require toe-in and all those religious setup i did for about a dozen speakers i tried in this room.

mozilla, it was a pleasure having you and ichabod once more. you're hard to please, sonically, so i really appreciate your observations. you were listening to my JE Labs 2A3 with Sovtek :twisted: had we have enough time, we could have listened to the RCA 2A3 or the Cunningham 45 ;) you can always drop by

bakit natahimik si ichabod? :lol:

oh, di ko naibigay sa inyo yung magic eraser...
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