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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:13 pm
by marty_e
I don't know if you guys are familiar, or have come across with this one, but I am using a Spica TC50 for my ST70.


Dunno how i missed this but you have a Spica? :o To think i started this thread. i've read about this a lot, this and the TC60 and am intrigued. How does the TC-50 and 60 differ? Any characteristics that really stand out? Thanks for any insights you might share.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:56 pm
by m_shoe_maker
marty_e wrote:How does the TC-50 and 60 differ? Any characteristics that really stand out? Thanks for any insights you might share.


IMHO, and in my system, and in my room, the 60 had more body in the mid-bass to bass, a bit more oommph in that department. :) But I still preferred better distinction between individual instruments and more air in the mids of the 50. :) Overall, vocals on the 50 was a lot better. :)

The 60's soundstage was deeper (maybe because of the weightier bottom :roll: ), but the 50's soundstage was wider. :)

If you are not in critical listening mode (not in the sweet spot), and listening off-axis, the 60 seems to be more balanced and tonally correct than the 50. :) The 60 seemed to have a bigger sweet spot requirement than the 50. :)

The 50 hates walls and smallish rooms like mine. :( Its wants to breath. :roll: With small rooms, you only have a single person sweet spot. But go to that sweet spot, and you will understand why "audiophiles" went gaga over these Spicas during the 80s. :)

In short, the 60 is more balanced, and easier to set-up. :) Sort of a "Jack of all Trades, Master of Nothing" type of thing. :roll: The 50 on the other hand is more of a specialist. :roll: No real deep bass to speak of. :( What I like about it though is its midrange magic which the newer 60 sort of lost. :)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:01 pm
by marty_e
Thanks M Shoe Maker, I noticed from previous posts Lito may have a pair for sale. Care to enlighten me on what a fair price for these might be? PM me if you can. Many thanks.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:16 pm
by m_shoe_maker
The Spicas had an original price of US$550. :)

I got mine from Lito in 1993 or 1994 thereabouts. I think I got mine for P12T to P13T. :)

Last time I saw TC50s from Lito was last year. He was selling the pair for P15T. :)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:52 am
by marty_e
Hey thanks a lot for the insights on the Spica. I think Lito has a TC60 now and will try to aud. What height stands are recommended BTW?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:39 am
by m_shoe_maker
marty_e wrote:Hey thanks a lot for the insights on the Spica. I think Lito has a TC60 now and will try to aud. What height stands are recommended BTW?


Depends really on how tall you are, and how high your listening chair is. :roll: I'm using 24 inch stands with adjustable spikes. :)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:56 am
by mva
marts,

I think the ST 70 can even match with Tannoy mx3s.....should drop by my place...it is about 63 meters away from your place. Currently listening to Alan Parsons Project-I robot....and it drives it just like how I would like to hear it.

Mike

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:15 am
by jicksilly
I have recently acquired a stock st 70 now udergoing restoration......planned to drive it with cayin cd 100....sonic frontier sfl2 pre amp.....and
b@w 802 s2 matrix......i have doubt this set up will not work properly with st 70........any comment from you guys will be very much appreciated...

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:58 am
by sonnysin168
You have to partner the B&W's with an amp that packs considerable power in order to make them sing. Or you can mate the st 70 with speakers having higher sensitivity. My opinion only.

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:37 pm
by JackD201
I would agree with this :)

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:15 pm
by jicksilly
JackD201 wrote:I would agree with this :)


thanks for the replies.......will hear what happened soon as i get back my st 70.......but in case i need to change my speaker
any suggestion with the speaker that range from 50 to 80k.........

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:34 pm
by JackD201
PM Raf for unbiased recommendations ;)

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:47 pm
by fld
Harbeth P3esrs.

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:00 pm
by Audiogeek
i agree with neutral & expert audition. i still have my all orig st70
panor version with solidstate rectification. it may also depend on
what load you are going to use the speakers with your st70's impedance,
whether on 8ohms, 4 or 2 ohms tap. im using 90db at 8ohms tap.

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:04 pm
by marty_e
jicksilly wrote:
JackD201 wrote:I would agree with this :)


thanks for the replies.......will hear what happened soon as i get back my st 70.......but in case i need to change my speaker
any suggestion with the speaker that range from 50 to 80k.........


L S 3 / 5 a :devil:

I'd look into something in the vicinity of 87db 8ohms upwards. Prime candidates include VSA VR-1 and its cousin, the LSA standmount, Hyperions, Rega, Triangle, Dali. I'd stay away from maggies, dynes and B&W's for now. Even sonus fabers may give the ST-70 a bit of a tough time...

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 6:11 pm
by jicksilly
marty_e wrote:
jicksilly wrote:
JackD201 wrote:I would agree with this :)


thanks for the replies.......will hear what happened soon as i get back my st 70.......but in case i need to change my speaker
any suggestion with the speaker that range from 50 to 80k.........


L S 3 / 5 a :devil:

I'd look into something in the vicinity of 87db 8ohms upwards. Prime candidates include VSA VR-1 and its cousin, the LSA standmount, Hyperions, Rega, Triangle, Dali. I'd stay away from maggies, dynes and B&W's for now. Even sonus fabers may give the ST-70 a bit of a tough time...


Thanks for all the suggestions....if indeed i need a new speaker i think the vsa vr-1 will be top of my list......dont have any idea how much this
cost locally....

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 6:41 pm
by JoeyGS
The VSA VR-1 is now out of production. A pre-owned can go as low as Php45k and up but seldom you see owners letting go of this baby.


jicksilly wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions....if indeed i need a new speaker i think the vsa vr-1 will be top of my list......dont have any idea how much this
cost locally....

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:17 am
by zetroce
marty_e wrote:
jicksilly wrote:
JackD201 wrote:I would agree with this :)


thanks for the replies.......will hear what happened soon as i get back my st 70.......but in case i need to change my speaker
any suggestion with the speaker that range from 50 to 80k.........


L S 3 / 5 a :devil:


+1 :devil: :devil: :devil:

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:25 am
by marty_e
I just realized I answered a thread I started 7 yearss ago. And yet, I'm still guessing. Go figure...

Re: ST70 Speaker matching

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:38 pm
by raffy
you've gone full circle :D