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zenaudio wrote:It's been a year since my last post on this topic , that was when I was new to vinyl.
Just to update, dozens of LPs hence...
conspicuous wrote:zenaudio wrote:It's been a year since my last post on this topic , that was when I was new to vinyl.
Just to update, dozens of LPs hence...
dozens??? more like hundreds!
i agree with boytoy being tops in many aspects - price, quality, honesty, service.
vintage_dog wrote:i dropped by the Blueroom late PM saturday and picked-up 6 of the reserved LPs:
1. ASIN / Sinta Himig Kayumanggi 2 / Vicor Music Corporation, Philippines / VG+ / NM / 400
4. TILLIE MORENO / Looks Like Love / WEA Records, Philippines / VG+ / VG / 300
Philippines / VG / VG+ / 600
11.VARIOUS ARTIST / Parangal kay Constancio C. De Guzman / WEA Records, Philippines / VG+ / VG+ / 300
12.BOYFRIENDS / Boyfriends 3 / Canary Records, Philippines / VG / VG+ / 300
23.RYAN CAYABYAB / One / 1981 Jem Recording Co., Inc., Philippines / VG+ / VG / 300
18.BASIL VALDEZ / Best of Basil / 1981, Blackgold Records, Philippines / NM / VG+ / 200
LPs were visually rated at about VG-VG+ by seller.
Actual findings:
vinyls are G on some, rest VG, one VG+
covers are G/VG, except 2 which had plastic cover
most vinyl are soiled (dust and sand), needing cleaning.
some covers are worn with side splits
2 LPs have minor warps but playable
a few did not have inner sleeves.
the Best of Basil had a different vinyl inside: "Corners of the Sky".
the Boyfriends had a deep cut and skips.
total amount paid: p1500 (before i tested them)
my rating of seller based on this experience:
hospitality of seller (raffy ignacio): VG
quality of records vs rating as advertised: POOR
pricing vs quality/expectation: POOR
overall experience: DISAPPOINTING
i have temporarily locked this thread and removed the listing of the LPs until:
- all LPs are properly cleaned and rated.
- all G-rated vinyl should be removed for sale
- the correct vinyl on the Best of Basil is supplied
- pricing is re-adjusted based on quality
- Boyfriends record (which skips) is replaced
- sample LPs are supplied for calibrations and re-qualification.
raffy, you may contact me at 0917-621-5056
zetroce wrote:Ronnie and I got some hard-to-find OPM LPs from the Blue Room today. The covers range from G to VG but the LPs are VG to ?. I got one Bong Penera LP ( Self-titled ), for a reasonable price. Ronnie got 1 Cecil Licad LP as well, and a Side A Album with Eva Marie. There are lots more in his stash, but we lack time. Thanks Raffy for accommodating us and we'll be coming back, sooner than you think....
Superman wrote:zetroce wrote:Ronnie and I got some hard-to-find OPM LPs from the Blue Room today. The covers range from G to VG but the LPs are VG to ?. I got one Bong Penera LP ( Self-titled ), for a reasonable price. Ronnie got 1 Cecil Licad LP as well, and a Side A Album with Eva Marie. There are lots more in his stash, but we lack time. Thanks Raffy for accommodating us and we'll be coming back, sooner than you think....
SWERTE! ...lalo na yang Side A
zetroce wrote:Superman wrote:zetroce wrote:Ronnie and I got some hard-to-find OPM LPs from the Blue Room today. The covers range from G to VG but the LPs are VG to ?. I got one Bong Penera LP ( Self-titled ), for a reasonable price. Ronnie got 1 Cecil Licad LP as well, and a Side A Album with Eva Marie. There are lots more in his stash, but we lack time. Thanks Raffy for accommodating us and we'll be coming back, sooner than you think....
SWERTE! ...lalo na yang Side A
BTW, Side A Album is sealed!!!
yellowpaper wrote:"...Everyone makes mistakes in grading. It is easy to use a VG + record as NM (M-) when you are attempting to sell it. This is a problem all dealers and collectors are prone to make and must be aware of. So don’t condemn a dealer for one mistake, but make him/her aware; but, when the mistake is the norm, find someone else to buy your records from."
There is a guy who owns a record shop at MCS besides Sensible Audio, who unfortunately doesn’t grade his LPs according to W.S. rules. I’m pretty sure he has been in this business for more than a decade or two. He rated a locally pressed lp as VG+ wherein its so obvious it’s a G. The scratches are feelable and there are other obvious blemishes or scuffs. OK so the above quote means I should be more forgiving but two or more LPs not correctly graded is something to get the alarm going. Maybe its me and I don’t mean to be so picky but when someone says VG+ I expect it to be in a such condition whether its visual graded or play graded and mind you I don’t have these problems with Pican, Boytoy, IHJ, Superman, Recordmogul, Vinylism, Khan99, Gypsy or dannyb which make their products a bargain compared to his and I’ve been dealing with some of them for more than a year or two or maybe more.
So, anyway I called his attention to it and in fairness he advised me to return it exchange if I'm not satisfied and this was after I played graded the LP in his shop. Well, ok, thanks very much, but had he correctly graded them I don’t see myself braving the traffic to go this shop and had I not verbally mentioned it God knows if he will volunteer to rectify it as good faith. I guess thats wishful thinking on my part.
Sorry but I’ll have no choice but to rate his shop as -1
Bebop wrote:yellowpaper wrote:"...Everyone makes mistakes in grading. It is easy to use a VG + record as NM (M-) when you are attempting to sell it. This is a problem all dealers and collectors are prone to make and must be aware of. So don’t condemn a dealer for one mistake, but make him/her aware; but, when the mistake is the norm, find someone else to buy your records from."
There is a guy who owns a record shop at MCS besides Sensible Audio, who unfortunately doesn’t grade his LPs according to W.S. rules. I’m pretty sure he has been in this business for more than a decade or two. He rated a locally pressed lp as VG+ wherein its so obvious it’s a G. The scratches are feelable and there are other obvious blemishes or scuffs. OK so the above quote means I should be more forgiving but two or more LPs not correctly graded is something to get the alarm going. Maybe its me and I don’t mean to be so picky but when someone says VG+ I expect it to be in a such condition whether its visual graded or play graded and mind you I don’t have these problems with Pican, Boytoy, IHJ, Superman, Recordmogul, Vinylism, Khan99, Gypsy or dannyb which make their products a bargain compared to his and I’ve been dealing with some of them for more than a year or two or maybe more.
So, anyway I called his attention to it and in fairness he advised me to return it exchange if I'm not satisfied and this was after I played graded the LP in his shop. Well, ok, thanks very much, but had he correctly graded them I don’t see myself braving the traffic to go this shop and had I not verbally mentioned it God knows if he will volunteer to rectify it as good faith. I guess thats wishful thinking on my part.
Sorry but I’ll have no choice but to rate his shop as -1
Mr YP,
Una sa lahat inaamin ko nagkamali ako grading sa Basil lp. Kaya nang dumating ka at tngnan k un laman pahiya ako sa sarili ko at inunuhan na kita at sinabi kung di malinis di ba? Pero pina playgrade mo pa din (baligtaran pa nga) kala ko papasa pa din kahit ganun kundisyon. Un iba mga plaka patugtog din natin para tayong nagjaming! Oks naman, so natapos din at nang magbabayaran na humihingi ka pa discount at sabi mo bawasan para suki na tayo. Pero din kita napagbigyan , cencya na.
Cncya na din sa trapik na sinuong mo, pero ala yan sa pinagdadaanan namin tindero ng plaka para makakuha ng plaka pambenta.
Saka sa pagpresyo ng plaka wag na sana icompare sa iba , ibat iba pinangalingan, dahilan pagkuha plaka, condition, overhead, kaalaman sa binebenta atbp. Ibig mo bang sabihin ako pinakamataas magbenta plaka?
Ayos lang sana, marunong din naman ako tumangap pagpuna kaya lang sa huli binanggit mo pa God at parang pinahiwatig mo pa na dishonest ako. Hwg Naman at baka wala nang magtiwala sakin.
nagpapaunawa,
the guy who owns a record shop in MCS
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