questions regarding tube amps

[tatalope]

hi guys i'm planning to get a locally assembled tube amp at phasetron (meron bang mas ok na shop bukod d2?) i'll be using it for turntable & cd player as well... so eto po mga katanugnan ko
1. dapt b o hindi na may BASS & TREBLE ang tube amp?
2 ano po b ang dapt integrated or mgkahiwalay na power amp at pre amp?

[m_shoe_maker]

i'll be using it for turntable

[KD]

1. dapt b o hindi na may BASS & TREBLE ang tube amp?

The people here generally believe in "to each his own", but if it is any indication, the recently introduced Wiredstate Tube Preamp is quite popular and has NO bass and treble controls.

[rtsyrtsy]

hi guys i'm planning to get a locally assembled tube amp at phasetron (meron bang mas ok na shop bukod d2?) i'll be using it for turntable & cd player as well... so eto po mga katanugnan ko
1. dapt b o hindi na may BASS & TREBLE ang tube amp?
2 ano po b ang dapt integrated or mgkahiwalay na power amp at pre amp?

I'm biased towards simple electronic designs so there is minimal degradation between the source and the speakers, hence, I am willing to trade the "flexibility" of having tone controls for signal path simplicity/purity.

That said, a well executed design and well-chosen parts with tone controls does not automatically mean it'll sound bad.

The decision to go Integrated vs. separate pre and power amps is largely driven by an audition. There are integrated designs that sound good, some sound bad. Ditto for separates.

Generally, integrateds offer better economy unless you'd use $$$ cables wherein it canbe cheaper to use monoblock amplifiers to get shorter cables.

Separates tend to be more complex. Pre and power amp matching becomes crucial, ditto for interconnects. Separates also require more real estate. If like me you live in a small apartment, that becomes an issue.

[vintage_dog]

hi guys i'm planning to get a locally assembled tube amp at phasetron (meron bang mas ok na shop bukod d2?) i'll be using it for turntable & cd player as well... so eto po mga katanugnan ko
1. dapt b o hindi na may BASS & TREBLE ang tube amp?
2 ano po b ang dapt integrated or mgkahiwalay na power amp at pre amp?

what's the rest of your system? we'll be able to give you some good options. also, what budget do you have in mind?

[tatalope]

i'll be using it for turntable

sir mali po ba? hehe sensya na..ibig ko po sbihin eh gagamitin ko pong source is TT & cd player kasi pagkakainitindi ko po eh mgkaiba yata ang needs ng cdplayer & TT tnx po

[m_shoe_maker]

sir mali po ba? hehe sensya na..ibig ko po sbihin eh gagamitin ko pong source is TT & cd player kasi pagkakainitindi ko po eh mgkaiba yata ang needs ng cdplayer & TT tnx po

Walang mali dyan. I was just happy to see another analog user.

[tatalope]

hi guys i'm planning to get a locally assembled tube amp at phasetron (meron bang mas ok na shop bukod d2?) i'll be using it for turntable & cd player as well... so eto po mga katanugnan ko
1. dapt b o hindi na may BASS & TREBLE ang tube amp?
2 ano po b ang dapt integrated or mgkahiwalay na power amp at pre amp?

what's the rest of your system? we'll be able to give you some good options. also, what budget do you have in mind?

i'm planning to upgrade i'm using a pioneer PL-50 TT tapos un reciever ko un 1980's technics pa n galing pa s uncle ko then a pair of kenwood speakers from my old mini compo... my budget is around 20k-30k (excluding speakers i doubt kung kksya p budget s speakers hehe) for integrated amp lng kung meron kasya s budget ko na pre at power amp mas ok.. d nmn kelangan malakas at mamahalin bsta pumasa na s inyo un tunog eh oks n din sakin kasi i'm into jazz (bebop, post bop, avante garde etc.)

mga sir kaya ko nmn naitanong kung mas oks b ang may bass & treble control kasi nun nagtanong ako s phasetron wla daw bass & treble control un s knila pero pwede daw palagyan..ang sakin nmn eh ayaw ko nmn dagdagan ng features kung pangit pala kumbaga ayaw ko mag dagdag ng features kung d nmn pala un ang usual or standard setup.. parang s mga cars po d b un ibang mga trucks & vans gumagamit ng steering knob un kinakabit s manibela para madali maikot un steering nila tpos meron mga taong gumagamit nito para s small cars eh pang trucks lng nmn un so ang kinalabasan eh baduy at corny!! so ayaw ko pong maging ganun sound set up ko hehe.. honestly wla kasi ko alam s mga audiophiles eh wla ko naiintindihan s mga tunog na hinahanap at mga sinasabi ng mga audiophiles na tulad nyo so parang magiging useless sakin un auditions kasi tuwing papasok ako s mga audio shops at meron nag au-audition dun eh parang pare-pareho lng pandinig ko ang nasasabi ko lng eh "mganda tunog" mapa-high end p yan o low end hehe...sakin bsta mganda bass at hi notes oks na.. sensya n mga sir s mga tanong at explanations kung magulo...

[m_shoe_maker]

.. parang s mga cars po d b un ibang mga trucks & vans gumagamit ng steering knob un kinakabit s manibela para madali maikot un steering nila tpos meron mga taong gumagamit nito para s small cars eh pang trucks lng nmn un so ang kinalabasan eh baduy at corny!! so ayaw ko pong maging ganun sound set up ko hehe..

Natawa ko dun ah.

Did you see my PM

[tatalope]

sir mali po ba? hehe sensya na..ibig ko po sbihin eh gagamitin ko pong source is TT & cd player kasi pagkakainitindi ko po eh mgkaiba yata ang needs ng cdplayer & TT tnx po

Walang mali dyan. I was just happy to see another analog user.

actually sir it started nun 1999 kasi meron mga jazz albums na gsto ko bilin s vinyl... so i bought an old, cheap & abused (by a DJ) aiwa TT since i'm not an audiophiler (in listening & in the pocket) oks n un ang importante mapakinggan ko un records... pero after 1 1/2 yr bumigay un motor d n umikot hehe then i replaced it w/ pioneer PL-50 mura lng din ..btw san ba ko makkbili ng mga vintage but not expensive TTs??? meron bang 10k lng n ganun? ayaw ko kasi un techniques mk2 mas gsto ko un vintage looking TTs kht n hindi hi-end... tnx

[tatalope]

.. parang s mga cars po d b un ibang mga trucks & vans gumagamit ng steering knob un kinakabit s manibela para madali maikot un steering nila tpos meron mga taong gumagamit nito para s small cars eh pang trucks lng nmn un so ang kinalabasan eh baduy at corny!! so ayaw ko pong maging ganun sound set up ko hehe..

Natawa ko dun ah.

Did you see my PM

hahaha sir di ko kasi maipaliwanag in audio terms eh ... so siguro naintindihan nyo ibig ko saibhin hehe

[iceman90a]

... my budget is around 20k-30k (excluding speakers i doubt kung kksya p budget s speakers hehe) for integrated amp lng kung meron kasya s budget ko na pre at power amp mas ok..

ganda ng options mo:

1. WS Pre-amp + WS TB2a3 = 9250 + 15000 = 24,250
2. WS Integrated amp (available Feb 2004) = <15,000

you can't go wrong with this?

[bugsy]

... my budget is around 20k-30k (excluding speakers i doubt kung kksya p budget s speakers hehe) for integrated amp lng kung meron kasya s budget ko na pre at power amp mas ok..

ganda ng options mo:

1. WS Pre-amp + WS TB2a3 = 9250 + 15000 = 24,250
2. WS Integrated amp (available Feb 2004) = <15,000

you can't go wrong with this?

Until you try selling them to brand conscious audiophiles

[red76]

[img]ganda ng options mo:

1. WS Pre-amp + WS TB2a3 = 9250 + 15000 = 24,250
2. WS Integrated amp (available Feb 2004) = <15,000 [/img]

Yes. Kulang nalang phono stage to play vinyl records. Yung preamp linestage lang.

[vintage_dog]

Yes. Kulang nalang phono stage to play vinyl records. Yung preamp linestage lang.

calling mickey and arnold....

[tatalope]

ganda ng options mo:

1. WS Pre-amp + WS TB2a3 = 9250 + 15000 = 24,250
2. WS Integrated amp (available Feb 2004) = <15,000

you can't go wrong with this?

sir ano b un "WS TB2a3"??? since vintage_dog mentioned that it has no phono stage medyo di ok hehe

[stereophile]

tatalope-
If you get a line stage pre-amp (like the WS), you still have to buy a separate phonostage like a pre-owned Musical Fidelity X-LP. Average cost is about P5-6K pre-owned. Using such a device, you will need 2 pairs of interconects (or 1 pair if your turntable has built in interconnects). Factor this in to your total cost for your system. To save on money, look for a pre-owned preamp with built in phonostage or go for an integrated with built in phonostage. Usually the integrated will end up cheaper than separates.

[iceman90a]

ganda ng options mo:

1. WS Pre-amp + WS TB2a3 = 9250 + 15000 = 24,250
2. WS Integrated amp (available Feb 2004) = <15,000

you can't go wrong with this?

sir ano b un "WS TB2a3"??? since vintage_dog mentioned that it has no phono stage medyo di ok hehe

Sorry - its the WS Tubong Bastos - 2a3 DIY amplifier kit but you can also buy it pre-assembled (i think)