Recordings and their stories

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Postby Vinylhead » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:49 am

bb3 wrote:sandawa,
first time i came across this one. nice piece of info.
did a little net surfing after reading your post and indeed the liner notes on their cds actually say that
the rocky fellers were the philippine jackson 5!
don't have the album though. maybe ihatejazz has it in his collection.

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Postby bb3 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:11 am

Vinylhead wrote:
bb3 wrote:sandawa,
first time i came across this one. nice piece of info.
did a little net surfing after reading your post and indeed the liner notes on their cds actually say that
the rocky fellers were the philippine jackson 5!
don't have the album though. maybe ihatejazz has it in his collection.

Yun oh! :angel: :$
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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby dsoulman73 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:43 pm

need to back track...this is a good thread..more pls.... :^)
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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby bb3 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:33 pm

My fascination for Layla (the album and the girl :) ) must be coming out of your ears.
http://bb3blog.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/layla/
But bear with me just a bit more. . .

It’s been quite a while. Let’s bump up this thread with one of my favorite love songs of the classic rock era:


Bobby Whitlock


Thorn Tree In The Garden (Layla)
There's a thorn tree in the garden, if you know just what I mean,
And I hate to hurt your feelings but it's not the way it seems,
'Cause I miss her.

She's the only girl I've cared for, the only one I've known.
And no one ever shared more love than we've known.
And I miss her.

But it all seems so strange to see,
That she'd never turn her back on me
And leave without a last goodbye.
And if she winds up walking the streets,
Loving every other man she meets
Who'll be the one to answer why?
Lord, I hope it's not me, it's not me.

And if I never see her face again, I never hold her hand.
And if she's in somebody's arms, I know I'll understand
But I miss that girl. I still miss that girl.

Maybe someday soon, somewhere.



Was this Bob Whitlock’s own tribute to Patti (Layla)?
Was this written for one of their groupies?
Or was this for that long lost childhood sweetheart?
Guess again . . . this was for his dog!

From the net:
Whitlock: "I was living at The Plantation in the valley - you remember the shootout at The Plantation in the Leon Russell song. I was living there with Indian Head Davis and Chuck Blackwell and Jimmy Constantine - there were about 13 of us in this house in Sherman Oaks in the valley. I had a little dog and a little cat. One guy told me to get rid of my dog and cat because there wasn't room. I took my cat out to Delaney's house in Hawthorn, and when I got back my little dog was gone. This one guy in the house had taken my dog and done away with it.
That was my only friend - this was the first time I had been anywhere outside of Macon, Georgia or the Memphis area. All of this was new to me, and I have an animal thing. I wanted to punch him out, and I thought, 'No, you can't do that,' so I went to my bedroom and sat down. I was thinking about a snake in the grass and some other ideas and I thought, 'He's the thorn tree in my garden.' I had this beautiful garden built in my consciousness where I was safe and secure with my little dog and my cat, and there's this thorn tree - that would be the guy who had my little dog put away.
I wrote the song and it just came out of me. I hadn't even put it on paper, and I went out of my bedroom and knocked on his door. I said, 'Come here, I want to play you something.' We sat down at the table in the kitchen and I played him that song. He said, 'Wow, Bobby, that's beautiful.' I said, 'You're the thorn tree. There's going to come a day when I have the opportunity to record this song, and the whole world will know about it. You'll know what you did to me for the rest of your life.' I didn't realize it was going to go on the end of one of the biggest-selling records of all time. That was the furthest thing from my mind."


A bit more Thorn Tree trivia:
Layla was produced/engineered by the legendary Tom Dowd.
Before he died of Leukemia, Tom Dowd did an interview in Producer magazine where he called this "The Perfect Stereo Recording."
Whitlock: "Eric and Duane and Jim and Carl and myself all got around one microphone. Tom Down came out and placed us just so; everybody was a certain distance in and out, and we did it just like that. I was sitting on a bar stool - Eric was to my left, Duane was directly across from me, Carl was to my right and Jim was between Duane and Eric with a little bell. Carl was playing a pedal bass, Duane was on Dobro and Eric was playing acoustic guitar with a pick next to me. I was picking with my fingers.
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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby choyb » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:47 pm

Bb3,
Thanks for this thread, trying to read back to 2004!
One of the best thread imo!
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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby bb3 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:02 pm

choyb wrote:Bb3,
Thanks for this thread, trying to read back to 2004!
One of the best thread imo!
Cheers


Thanks too choy,
Yep, this thread had one of the most active discussions during the early years of WS.
Guys who posted here really knew their Rock n Roll!

I guess it's about time to revive this and let the younger ones chime in.

Here's one:

Sorry, still on Layla :$ but more on the man behind the album.
Together with Glyn Johns, Quncy Jones, Bones Howe, to name a few,
the late great Tom Dowd was one of the producers/engineers I admired and followed.

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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby lurker » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:55 pm

Jim Gordon who was a part of Derek and the dominoes was also a pianist who also wrote and played the majestic piano
coda as the 2nd part of Layla. It is said the Gordon was playing the piano during a break and it caught Claptons attention and asked that it be added, and for this he got partial credit with Clapton.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep06/articles/classictracks_0906.htm
all the recording stuff about Layla sessions that you may want to know.

The fun part about playing along Layla alongside a piano or a guitar, is that even if you tune your instrument to the CD player, the pitch will change slightly. same as with other older recordings.
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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby bb3 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:15 pm

If I remember correctly, Jim Gordon refused to have that piano coda included in the song.
it was upon Clapton's insistence that it was inserted days after the song was recorded.

Jim Gordon is now in jail for the murder of his mother.
One of the stories that haunt the "curse of the Dominos".
More on that later.
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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby bb3 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:04 am

" Mr Mojo Risin"

This phrase is repeatedly vocalized in the bridge of the Doors' LA Woman.
Mr Mojo Risin' is an ingenious anagram to Jim Morrison.

The ever-increasing tempo on this portion of the song creates a rhythmic analogy of intercourse. . . well, that's what some say. ;)

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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby bb3 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:03 am

Unknown to John and Paul, was there still that invisible thread that connected them to each other years after the split? :)

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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby sumnerbrowne » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:54 am

bb3 wrote:
choyb wrote:Bb3,
Thanks for this thread, trying to read back to 2004!
One of the best thread imo!
Cheers


Thanks too choy,
Yep, this thread had one of the most active discussions during the early years of WS.
Guys who posted here really knew their Rock n Roll!

I guess it's about time to revive this and let the younger ones chime in.

Here's one:

Sorry, still on Layla :$ but more on the man behind the album.
Together with Glyn Johns, Quncy Jones, Bones Howe, to name a few,
the late great Tom Dowd was one of the producers/engineers I admired and followed.



Thanks for sharing, Boy. Layla is one of my fave EC songs as well. Fairly recently, I was blown away hearing Noli Aurillo replicate the piano coda note for note with unexpected extras along the way using an acoustic guitar.
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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby bb3 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:59 am

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45 yrs ago we saw this couple (draped in their blanket) on that 3lp album cover of Woodstock.
Nick and Bobbi Ercoline are still together today....

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Re: Recordings and their stories

Postby choyb » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:58 pm

bb3 wrote:Image

45 yrs ago we saw this couple (draped in their blanket) on that 3lp album cover of Woodstock.
Nick and Bobbi Ercoline are still together today....

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Yeah!
That's super update and link for an album and its cover that became part of our lives (at least for rockers haha)...Peace, Love and Music to all!
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